"Give me the boy until he is seven, and I will give you the man." - St. Ignatius of Loyola
So by 7 we have been thoroughly brainwashed and indoctrinated, no wonder it is difficult to leave the WTS by the time we are adults.
George
it's obvious to anyone who's spent time on this site with an open mind that major brainwashing and mind control are at work in the wts.
how do you reconcile that with the idea of free will?
it's like if i said that i know my decisions were mine, but at the same time they weren't.
"Give me the boy until he is seven, and I will give you the man." - St. Ignatius of Loyola
So by 7 we have been thoroughly brainwashed and indoctrinated, no wonder it is difficult to leave the WTS by the time we are adults.
George
well since i cant grow a beard, dont have the patience for dread-locks, and do not want anything permanent like a tatoo yet..... i enjoyed the experience, never been in a tatoo parlor, this looks understated, not painful & everyone hates my new nose "glitter" which i find kinda funny.
i don't see it being a permanent thing with me, but i always wanted one, and you never know if you don't try..... just one more step in the independent direction of making my own choices-.
btw i also registered to vote last week!.
CHG You may end up with a half shekel nose ring as did Rebekah, if you meet the right servant! (Gen 24:22)
George
bring back the memories.
You have to make the truth your own!
George
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqkysaystug.
As disgusting and horrific this seems to us, it's just another case of religious and cultural slavery. If the GB announced in the next WT that we should be doing this to our children, JW parents would be queing up to get their kids done. Must follow the GB even if we don't understand!
George
i watched an interesting programme last night on the amish religion.
i remember watching the film "witness" many years ago with harrison ford so i already had an insight into what sort of people they were.. they seem a peaceful, family/community orientated group who stick to the teachings in the bible like glue.
when jesus spoke about 'being separate from the world' surely no-one could have followed this more than the amish.
i think that this explains it best !!.
one of the critical and most debatable assumptions we have maintained thus far in our arguments is the assumption of successive generations.
in other words, we have assumed that, every period, a new generation arises and the old one dies off.
Do you think Jesus used these formulea when speaking in Matt 24?
George
do you think most of those who claim to be anointed are faking it or do you think they actually believe they are anointed?
it's something i've always wondered..
When I was a youngster in the 1950's there were lots of anointed in our congregation and also surrounding congregations. They were just ordinary folk and no one treated them as special. The congregation was very happy, never seemed to have any issues and DFing almost unheard of.
In more recent years I know a sister who is in her 60's and of the anointed; quite an ordinary sort of person but only been in 'the truth' about 25 years so she has never really been accepted as anointed. In fact one elder actually said from the platform 'we do not have any anointed in this congregation'. This despite WT getting rid of the 1931/1935 door closing!
George
is there any jehovah's witness who can answer these questions about 1914?.
can you demonstrate, using the holy scriptures, that the messianic kingdom was established in 1914, that jesus got the full legal right to become king that year, and that jesus returned invisibly in 1914, and that the "last days" began that year?.
1:) no encyclopedia, no history book, and no archaeology book that i have ever seen have ever said that nebuchadnezzar destroyed jerusalem and the temple in the year 607 bce.
Incidently the memorial celebration was always at Conley's house up to 1892, J Russells house in 1893 and at the tabernacle thereafter.
That should have been 1882 and 1883 of course.
George
is there any jehovah's witness who can answer these questions about 1914?.
can you demonstrate, using the holy scriptures, that the messianic kingdom was established in 1914, that jesus got the full legal right to become king that year, and that jesus returned invisibly in 1914, and that the "last days" began that year?.
1:) no encyclopedia, no history book, and no archaeology book that i have ever seen have ever said that nebuchadnezzar destroyed jerusalem and the temple in the year 607 bce.
According to Barbara Anderson's reseach, W H Conley put in $3500, Joseph Russell $1000 and C T Russell $500 to start the Zions WT in 1881. WHC became President, JR Vice President and CT Sec-Treasurer and co-editor of the WT with his wife Maria.
When Conley died CT never even reported it in the WT. He wanted him totally written out of its history.
Incidently the memorial celebration was always at Conley's house up to 1892, J Russells house in 1893 and at the tabernacle thereafter.
George
is there any jehovah's witness who can answer these questions about 1914?.
can you demonstrate, using the holy scriptures, that the messianic kingdom was established in 1914, that jesus got the full legal right to become king that year, and that jesus returned invisibly in 1914, and that the "last days" began that year?.
1:) no encyclopedia, no history book, and no archaeology book that i have ever seen have ever said that nebuchadnezzar destroyed jerusalem and the temple in the year 607 bce.
I think a lot of this nonsense was poached by C T Russell from William Miller (Millerites) who was the start of all the Adventist type movements. He published all these calculations and diagrams of Daniels prophesies and C T just copied them.
George
William Conley
President before Russell. 1881-84.
And written out of the WTS literature ever since except for a one line mention in the Proclaimers book. Needless to say he never made it to the new DVD!